+ Ginny Weasley
Edited by Kip Carter Nov 17, 2005 2:24 am
I have it on good authority that Ginny will be a seer in the upcoming books and play an important, pivotal part. Of course, this hasn't stopped people from shooting that down. 
There are no clear hints that Ginny has this talent, like Ron, but there are also no clear hints that she doesn't. (yes, that's a bit circular) A strong proponet to this idea is the theory of the 7th child of the 7th child, which according to myth shall be either a healer or a seer. Ginny is the 7th child. I'm assuming either Arthur or Molly is also a 7th child. Discuss amongst yourselves!
(2136 previous messages)Die Zimtzicke - Sep 20, 2007 11:18 am (#2137 of 2152)
Thank you, Mrs. Brisbee. That was very kind. Yes, we do have common ground as to Ginny's role in book seven.
I always thought the incident in the CoS would come back up. Something to do with that would have been perfect. I didn't think it would be reduced to Ron mimicking parseltongue and collecting some old fangs. I was horribly disappointed there. I really thought something Ginny saw, did or remmbered was going to matter.
Neville gets to destroy a horcrux, Ron learns what matters in life, Hermione keeps everyone on task, Cho comes back to Hogwarts to fight, Fleur turns out to be all right in many ways, Luna can see Harry through polyjuice and stuns Alecto, but what did Ginny have for herself? She kisses Harry, does some stuff along with other people, and later looks beseechingly at him. (I just hate that workd okay?) A pivotal moment WAS needed.
Neville Longbottom
- Sep 21, 2007 9:20 am (#2138 of 2152)
What is needed is the story of year 7 at Hogwarts. This would show Ginny showing some leadership and derring-do. It would also allow Neville his shot in the limelight. Alas, it doesn't seem as if this is to be.
The difference is, that even without the story of yoear seven in Hogwarts, Neville *got* his scene in the limelight. He might not had all that much screentime, but his screentime mattered in a way Ginny's simply didn't.
Orion
- Sep 22, 2007 1:16 pm (#2139 of 2152)
In marrying Ginny, Harry comes as close as possible to marrying Ron, doesn't he?
IMHO, JKR had spent all kinds of girls she could imagine on Hermione, Cho, Fleur, Angelina and Luna and couldn't knock up one more on Ginny, and that's why Ginny is so boring. She is even more boring than Tonks, and that's saying something.
People seem to want her to be a powerful witch because they think she has to be a match for Harry, but why does she have to? Every person has an intrinsic value, and many people would be hard pressed to give a specific reason why they fell in love with their partner. It just happened. It is only weird that all over literature, characters are shown to fall in love with women, and you almost always can relate to that and understand it some way, and here you can't. Maybe JKR was embarrassed about Harry falling in love? It was much more plausible with Cho, but then she wasn't the girl he would marry. Maybe Harry is JKR's dream guy and so she was constricted in describing his future wife? (Don't kill me!)
Maybe the very boring actress, who is not very good at acting and seems to have only one facial expression, is a reason why so many people don't like Ginny. (I would be mortified if she read this and hope she never will.) But the two girls who play Ginny and Lily are looking very similar, so the casting director maybe wanted to hint that Harry is the type who wants to marry the spitting image of his mother.
This thread is so very long, and I only read the last few hundred posts, so I want to apologize in advance for probably repeating old stuff.
PeskyPixie
- Sep 22, 2007 2:47 pm (#2140 of 2152)
Edited Sep 22, 2007 3:50 pm
For me, Bonnie Wright is Ginny Weasley. I have more trouble accepting a fortyish Lily Potter when she dies at 21.
I actually have issues with the Ginny Weasley-Lily Evans analogy. They are both lovely, charming redheads who will never go over to the dark side, but the similarities end there, in my opinion. Lily seems to be a gentle soul though she can stand up for her beliefs and for justice. Ginny on the other hand has many elements of Fred and George in her. There is a harshness in her (and I don't mean it as an insult as I really like this character) which I do not find in Lily. If young Severus had called her a Mudblood he'd have gotten a Bat-Bogey hex on him before James had turned him right side up ... then again, I don't see Ginny as having the ability to look beyond young Snape's darkness to befriend him.
NFla Barbara - Sep 22, 2007 3:17 pm (#2141 of 2152)
Well, we see Ginny pretty young. She calls Luna "Looney" the first time we see Luna, but she grows out of that. If Lily seems to be more the type who would befriend someone unpopular, maybe that's because that's one of the handful of things we know about her. I agree that Ginny has a little of Fred and George in her, though! I was just re-reading the Quiddich scene in HBP where Zacharias Smith was announcing the game and giving Gryffindor a hard time, and at the end of the game she flies straight into the tower where he was sitting. "Sorry," she says, "forgot to brake." Funny.
Lily was one of two; Ginny was the last of six. I think that alone explains a little of Ginny's comparative feistiness (I prefer that to harshness).
PeskyPixie
- Sep 22, 2007 6:43 pm (#2142 of 2152)
Yes, we see Ginny pretty young, but we get a glimpse of Lily at a slightly younger age. Given the circumstances under which she first meets Severus and the rivalry between he and her sister, I think she does have a kindness which many children her age (including Ginny) lack. This is not a criticism of Ginny (she is quite normal for her age, and as you mentioned, she does grow out of it) but rather a difference from Lily.
"Feisty" is just the word I was searching for! Thanks. And she's the last of seven, not six :( Fred still counts.
- Sep 23, 2007 9:52 am (#2143 of 2152)
I think Lily might have been a tad more like Ginny had she been raised in an all wizard home with Fred and George instead of a Muggle home with Petunia.
PeskyPixie
- Sep 23, 2007 10:03 am (#2144 of 2152)
That's a very interesting point, Choices.
You know, I think I agree with that. Do you think Lily's open-mindedness towards a poor, scruffy, potentially dark kid like Severus would have been influenced had she been raised in a completely magical environment?
I still feel that Ginny would not have made friends with the child Snape (prior to attending Hogwarts). Is this because, as a good young witch, she has been conditioned by her environment to not associate with kids like Snape?
- Sep 23, 2007 10:07 am (#2145 of 2152)
Edited Sep 23, 2007 11:31 am
LOL Choices, and now I wonder what Ginny may have been like if Percy were her only sibling.
(I suddenly want ot read a fan fic involving a time-turner and a Percy/Petunia 'ship.)
Edit to answer Pesky Pixie ~
I'm not sure; a lot would depend upon when Snape became 'dark.' Young Ginny certainly would not have looked down on Young Snape because of his parents' financial status. Ginny (who would grow to master the bat-bogey hex against those who ticked her off,) may even have felt dropping a tree branch in response to an insult was funny if no one was hurt. If they met before Snape turned dark and bitter, why shouldn't she have been friendly?
- Sep 23, 2007 10:09 am (#2146 of 2152)
I do agree. I think Lily was more open to Severus because she had not learned the prejudices that a child from a magical family might have been taught/learned.
PeskyPixie
- Sep 23, 2007 11:03 am (#2147 of 2152)
Chemyst, you are right. Ginny would have been able to see the humour where Lily perhaps did not (I didn't get the feeling that any serious damage was done to Tuney, but the whole situation between Severus and Petunia, and discovering that she herself was probably magical was agitating Lily).
Yet, I have a feeling that had Ginny and young Severus (both with knowledge of the magical world) met prior to attending Hogwarts, talk of school Houses would eventually arise. Would young Ginny be able to maintain a friendship with a Slytherin hopeful?
NFla Barbara - Sep 23, 2007 1:02 pm (#2148 of 2152)
Thank you, Pixie! I knew six was wrong, but when I counted I left out Percy. (I would never leave out Fred. I love Fred.) Chalk it up to a senior moment.
PeskyPixie
- Sep 24, 2007 9:50 am (#2149 of 2152)
I doubt it's a 'senior moment' ... Percy is quite forgettable.
I still haven't forgiven him, but I'm trying!
- Aug 11, 2009 3:38 am (#2150 of 2152)
Happy birthday Ginny Weasley/Potter, hope you have a wonderful day and many more to come.
- Aug 11, 2009 6:58 am (#2151 of 2152)
Edited Aug 11, 2009 7:58 am
Ginny, wonderful Birthday wishes for you. Have a great day and give Harry and the kids a big hug from me. :-)
Hoot Owl - Aug 11, 2009 9:14 am (#2152 of 2152)
Happy Birthday, Mrs. Potter. By the way whatever happened to Arnold?
+ Ginny Weasley